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Jan 18, 2010 2:53:44 GMT -5
Post by homesteadgrays on Jan 18, 2010 2:53:44 GMT -5
Just wondering, are we considering any owner suggestions, or is the commish pretty much set on what he wants? Just askin'...
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Jan 18, 2010 13:34:32 GMT -5
Post by Coach Dorsey on Jan 18, 2010 13:34:32 GMT -5
I'll take any ideas. Shoot!
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Jan 19, 2010 4:29:58 GMT -5
Post by homesteadgrays on Jan 19, 2010 4:29:58 GMT -5
Well, just thinking out loud here. Since we have 36 guys, I wondered if we might consider going to 6x6 and including Holds (and maybe OPS or TB on the hitting side). I've always felt relievers are pretty key in real baseball and since we have the rosters for it, can we track more than just Saves? I really like Holds, I think it's an underrated category.
Also wondered how long a 36 player (x 14 teams = 504 players) slow draft is actually going to take. If we do a half a round a day (7 owners daily) that will take us 72 days to draft, and the regular season starts in 75. Could we maybe consider a regular live online draft for maybe the first 26 rounds, and do the slow draft for the rest?
I'm assuming the deep rosters sort of take the place of a minor league system, that most of us will want to draft prospects and let them sit on the bench. Yahoo Baseball doesn't open up until maybe February 1st, but in the past, it seems to me that very few prospects are in the Yahoo database unless they have major league AB, or are strongly expected to make the majors this season. Maybe we look at that, and if we want to draft prospects but they don't appear yet in Yahoo, that maybe we think about something like a 30 man roster, with a 6 man minor league that can be kept off-line. Maybe some or all of the minor leaguers could be kept from year to year.
Again, just thinking out loud here. Any input from the other owners?
Paul / Homestead Grays
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Jan 19, 2010 8:41:29 GMT -5
Post by Pete on Jan 19, 2010 8:41:29 GMT -5
I'm in another league like this where we did the slow draft last year--got through it in plenty of time--much better than trying to find a live-draft time for everyone which takes a whole day up--I know that would be huge challenge for me
I'm open to things on the minor league level.
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Jan 19, 2010 9:54:07 GMT -5
Post by homesteadgrays on Jan 19, 2010 9:54:07 GMT -5
Most of my live online snake drafts last year took about 1 1/2 hours to get through maybe 300 players. Now, to get through 500 players, I imagine that might bog down some in the higher rounds....maybe 3 hours total? But nowhere near as long as an auction draft, OMG that WOULD take all day.
A weekend morning or evening usually works pretty well. If we could do it for (say) 2 hours, I bet we could get in 30 rounds.
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Jan 19, 2010 12:39:56 GMT -5
Post by Bulltown Mets on Jan 19, 2010 12:39:56 GMT -5
I was part of a 16-team, 30 player roster type of league for three years.
We always did a slow draft via proboards and with some discipline, you can get 3 to 4 rounds done in one week.
From the moment we have set the draft order, guys that draft in the same range should exchange email adresses where they can be reached immediatly. And you will have to use a relativly short Time window max 4 for 6 hours per pick (with time freezing from midnight til 6AM EST).
In my old league, some players that already knew they would have trouble on certain days mailed a short list of wanted players to the commish who then made the pick for them.
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Jan 19, 2010 12:42:03 GMT -5
Post by Bulltown Mets on Jan 19, 2010 12:42:03 GMT -5
What about the line ups? Will we have daily line up changes or weekly?
i would prefer the later but also accept daily.
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Jan 19, 2010 16:07:33 GMT -5
Post by pete on Jan 19, 2010 16:07:33 GMT -5
I definitely prefer the weekly line ups myself and really do prefer the slow draft--drafts are one of the best parts of the league--love to have it go a little longer to enjoy it and think it gives you the extra moments to give some thoughts to the picks that will shape your team for a whole season
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Jan 19, 2010 19:09:00 GMT -5
Post by Coach Dorsey on Jan 19, 2010 19:09:00 GMT -5
We can vote on 6x6. I'll set up a poll thread. Also, if we can get these spots filled I like the slow draft but we can set a date that if we are not full we can set a date and finish it live.
As for the extra large rosters, if you want to keep minor leaguers that is your choice. The round drafted or picked up via free agency still applies.
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Jan 19, 2010 23:07:47 GMT -5
Post by Orioles on Jan 19, 2010 23:07:47 GMT -5
I too prefer a slow draft. As long as we finish before the season starts, I'm in no hurry.
I'm curious about the intention of the 36 player rosters. Was it to allow for prospects as someone suggested? I could live with decreasing the roster size (though I like the deep rosters) and just allowing players with major league experience to be drafted given that a max of 5 players can be kept. With prospects being drafted, we might be keeping books and empty roster spots on a guy who doesn't even appear in Yahoo for 3 or so years
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Jan 19, 2010 23:43:13 GMT -5
Post by colhogan on Jan 19, 2010 23:43:13 GMT -5
I play in another league like this one--the deep rosters are great--give you a chance to grab a player who might help you later and I have definitely needed all those spots at some point and time--fun getting real deep into the player pool
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Jan 20, 2010 7:19:43 GMT -5
Post by homesteadgrays on Jan 20, 2010 7:19:43 GMT -5
I like a larger roster too, it's definitely more challenging, but I wonder if sometimes it inhibits trading, because with 36 players, you won't really NEED anybody, as you can have both a starter and a back-up for every position player including Util, plus at least a dozen starting pitchers and 3 or 4 closers. Maybe the 30 man roster with the 6 offline minor leaguers is a better idea - and maybe we could keep 2 or 3 minor league prospects each year along with our main 5 major league keepers. Remember also we have 3 DL spots, so by midseason we could have 550 players tied up. I'd much rather pick up a minor league prospect or two than fill out my roster with 5th OFs and backup IFs who only play twice a week.
I'd really prefer daily moves, this is roto, not H2H. Let's be active, and if we have 30 or 36 players, let's use them. If a player has a day off, I want to be able to fill that spot and get some stats.
Yes, let's consider 6x6, maybe using OPS and Holds. If the league picks up 30 or 40 middle relievers for Holds, it will also improve the free agent pool a bit.
Based on Bulltown Mets' note, "you can get 3 to 4 rounds done in one week", slow drafting 36 players will take 8 to 12 weeks to complete. I've never done it, so I can't speak from experience, but the comments about exchanging email addresses where you can be found immediately, and giving the commish a short list to make picks for you concern me a little. I don't know what you guys do for a living, I suppose if you're a student that's one thing, but today I happen to be in Bangkok Thailand - I do a lot of business travel. I'm online a lot, but I can't always check in every 4 to 6 hours, especially for 8 to 12 weeks straight. That's asking a lot for anybody, especially people who can't go online at work. I don't want to be "that guy" so I'll go either way, but if we're doing a slow draft we'd better get started real soon. My preference would be a live online draft and get 'er done in 2 or 3 hours.
That's my $.02, and thank you kindly.
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Jan 20, 2010 15:06:53 GMT -5
Post by CT on Jan 20, 2010 15:06:53 GMT -5
I would like to see a minor league system....10 or so minors per squad..
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Jan 20, 2010 15:35:40 GMT -5
Post by CT on Jan 20, 2010 15:35:40 GMT -5
When is the time table to FIRE THIS thing up..
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Jan 20, 2010 18:37:19 GMT -5
Post by Bay Area Baller on Jan 20, 2010 18:37:19 GMT -5
I like the idea of lowering the number of players as well. by the time we get to the end of the draft, we will be drafting players that arent even in starting lineups. I saw someone say 10 minor leaguers would be good. I personally think it should be maybe 5, and then we keep 2-3 if we choose to...
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